Medical Question

[holly222]

Well, the doctors dont know, so maby someone else has had problem..........
My three year old son woke up yesterday and cant walk.  He cant put preasure on his right leg.  He seems to hold his knee and crys in pain.  He scooted around the floor on his bottom all day and was limping by the end of the day and back on his feet.  But this morning it is happening again.  He cant stand, and is screaming.  We had exrays done yesterday and they saw no crack or break in his leg.  The doctor pushed all around and felt his bones and stuff and he dint find anything.  My baby never cryed when you touched it, and he is not today.  Only when he trys to stand and put preasure on it.  They said to watch him, they were very worried.  But dont know what is causing it........  I am very worried, it has happened twice before, but he was over it within a few hours...... this time it has been two mornings he has woke up like this.....

I dont know what to do.

[pogohatesme]

Well, the doctors dont know, so maby someone else has had problem..........
My three year old son woke up yesterday and cant walk.  He cant put preasure on his right leg.  He seems to hold his knee and crys in pain.  He scooted around the floor on his bottom all day and was limping by the end of the day and back on his feet.  But this morning it is happening again.  He cant stand, and is screaming.  We had exrays done yesterday and they saw no crack or break in his leg.  The doctor pushed all around and felt his bones and stuff and he dint find anything.  My baby never cryed when you touched it, and he is not today.  Only when he trys to stand and put preasure on it.  They said to watch him, they were very worried.  But dont know what is causing it........  I am very worried, it has happened twice before, but he was over it within a few hours...... this time it has been two mornings he has woke up like this.....

I dont know what to do.

Have you checked into a second opinion from a different doctor?  Anytime I have medical question I check out www.webmd.com  it's not a fix for anything...but it may help you out

[bubblegum]

my first initial guess would be (even though the docs might say he's to little) is either a blood clot in his leg or its not the bones but the muscles in his leg.  Maybe somehow he has gotten a severe muscles cramp/Charley horse in his right leg that got better during the day.  Here's an article on web md that might help to.  Remember though bone problems may not always show up on x-rays.  My hubby had a stress fracture in his ankle for almost a year that didn't show up on x-rays.  Only after the dr ordered a full body scan a year later did it show up.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/19/1728_50665.htm

[holly222]

Thanks for the ideas, my hubby talked to the doc on the military base and he said it could be growing pains, but I dont think so.  Im gonna ask them to check his hip and get another pediatric dr to look at him tommarow if he is still doing this....

[slidecage2222]

yea   X rays  are old and really dont show  much..... if you can ask them to do a   BONE SCAN .....       and dont let the doctor tell you  that  if a bone was broken they couldnt walk... i broke my foot  in  3 spots  back in 91 playing tennis and walked on it for  2 days    even though it was broke in  3 spots.... had a cast on my leg   for  6 weeks  (dont ask me why they put a case all the way  from the bottom of my foot to my knee  just for a broken foot  LOL)

[Blu]

Well, if it's severe crapping, it'd be noticable....seeing his quads flex. Growing pains are very possible at 3, tendons and ligaments and bone plates aren't fully developed. Also, could be bone on bone pain....the very worst kind. Tonight, try feeding him jello...increased gelatine lubricates joints.

[SI]

My $0.02: find a podiatrist that your insurance covers, and have your doctor refer you to them.  What I've found, through my own personal experience, is that general practitioners are terrible when it comes to foot/leg ailments.  I swear that they spend the least amount of time learning about the legs (which is understandable).

I was going through a living hell with Gout for over a month before my doctor finally gave in and sent me to a podiatrist.  Ten minutes into the visit she was able to narrow it down to one of two possible ailments.  The blood work was able to confirm it.  Now I have the meds & knowledge, and have been fine since.  That was five years ago.

[Mary]

thanks for the webmd site pogo  O0

[~WickedAce~]

Also you could rule out growing pains (from my own experience with my 3 year old) with bananas like 3-4 a day.  Usually when she gets them I have her eat 2 in a row, and she is good.  About the blood clot thing mentioned earlier, that is very well possible, and it is called DVT I believe.  It is something that is very serious, my mother was recently diagnosed with it, and had to have emergency surgery for it, and she is a nurse and didn't even see it coming.  Hope that you find out what is wrong with your little man soon.  

[pogohatesme]

Well, if it's severe crapping, it'd be noticable....seeing his quads flex. Growing pains are very possible at 3, tendons and ligaments and bone plates aren't fully developed. Also, could be bone on bone pain....the very worst kind. Tonight, try feeding him jello...increased gelatine lubricates joints.

ummmm surely that's a typo lol....or does severe crapping lead to leg pains if your sitting on the toliet too long?? :)) :))

[SaintHiρρo]

Well, if it's severe crapping, it'd be noticable....seeing his quads flex. Growing pains are very possible at 3, tendons and ligaments and bone plates aren't fully developed. Also, could be bone on bone pain....the very worst kind. Tonight, try feeding him jello...increased gelatine lubricates joints.

ummmm surely that's a typo lol....or does severe crapping lead to leg pains if your sitting on the toliet too long?? :)) :))

LoL, 1st time I read it, I thought my eyes were hurting but now I can confirm... that's funny!

[bubblegum]

military doctors will right off "growing" pains as any kind of severe pain they can't explain in young kids. Growing pains are general aches and pain all over that responds well to aspirin.  Theres something more severe going on than just growing pains.  Persistent pain, pain in the morning, or swelling or redness in one particular area or joint and limping IS NOT growing pains. Don't take the quickest answer as the best solution and let us know what happens.

[harley89]

I remember when my niece was  about that age she a similar symptoms. It was juvenile arithis. She grew out of it as she got older.

[justahumping]

Well, the doctors dont know, so maby someone else has had problem..........
My three year old son woke up yesterday and cant walk. He cant put preasure on his right leg. He seems to hold his knee and crys in pain. He scooted around the floor on his bottom all day and was limping by the end of the day and back on his feet. But this morning it is happening again. He cant stand, and is screaming. We had exrays done yesterday and they saw no crack or break in his leg. The doctor pushed all around and felt his bones and stuff and he dint find anything. My baby never cryed when you touched it, and he is not today. Only when he trys to stand and put preasure on it. They said to watch him, they were very worried. But dont know what is causing it........ I am very worried, it has happened twice before, but he was over it within a few hours...... this time it has been two mornings he has woke up like this.....

I dont know what to do.

From my personal experience, your son *may* have a dry socket. I have had that two times in my life and it does hurt like hell.....  It could be a broke bone and the exrays are not showing that up too, (that happened to me just last year and the exrays did not show it).      You said one thing that scared me. *military base*...... Are you using a military doctor?  If so, get another doctor....     I use the VA and even tho I get great care for the most part, I have had some doctors that I could have taken them out back and showed them what pain is all about!.....   Get another doctor and if they can not find anything wrong. Do NOT take growing pains for an answer either. Get them to do a CT Scan *computed tomography examination*...  Keep us informed as to what you find out. Take care and I will be praying for you and your child.   

[harley89]

I forgot to add I will pray for your son. Just keep pushing till you get answer.  Your child is ill so you have a right to ask questions and be pushy. I only accepted the answer I dont know from a doctor once. He told me right at the start he didnt know what was wrong with my daughter but he offered the best solution he had.  He also qualified that with after this producre if he still didnt know the problem he would have her sent to Atlanta for further testing. And that is exactly what he did. So get your Mommie mode in full gear become the loiness protecting her cub. 

[Blu]

Well, if it's severe crapping, it'd be noticable....seeing his quads flex. Growing pains are very possible at 3, tendons and ligaments and bone plates aren't fully developed. Also, could be bone on bone pain....the very worst kind. Tonight, try feeding him jello...increased gelatine lubricates joints.

ummmm surely that's a typo lol....or does severe crapping lead to leg pains if your sitting on the toliet too long?? :)) :))

LoL, 1st time I read it, I thought my eyes were hurting but now I can confirm... that's funny!

:)) :)) :)) :)) OOPS, Maybe I should proof read a little better. I feel dumb as rocks lol....

[undercoverangel]

My son gets severe pains in his legs at times that some people call growing pains.  It is not really growing pains but a lack of potassium.  The military docs didn't have a clue with us either.  I knew what to do from family history.  The bananas suggestion was a good one.  Find extra sources of potassium and see if that helps.  When the muscles cramp up (and it is not always seen as someone else said) they get really sore for a while after.  Sometimes he wakes up and has trouble walking on his legs because the muscles are so sore.   Compare the cramps they are getting to you running a 5 K marathon when totally out of shape.  I really hope this is all it is with your son.  He will be in my prayers for the doctors to figure something out.

[LastCall]

My suggestion
is to bring hm to a very good Dr and find your help there
     I would give him some Gatoraid  It puts electrolites in the body as sports people do
         But AGAIN go to a Doctor the Internet wont help your son's problem  O0

[holly222]

Well, were goin on three days, he is a little better but still limping, not using the leg like he should and falls every now and then from it. He was up again all night fussying over it, but this morning he went straight to the limping instead of scooting on his but.  Im not sure if its getting better or he is getting use to it.   I just put another call into the doctor to see if they will look him over one more time.  I just hate it when there too young to tell you whats wrong, and you just dont know what to do for them. 
I do want to thank all you kind souls for your info and prayers. 
Thank you soooo much.

[Snarechick]

Your best bet is to take him to an Orthopedic specialist/surgeon if he is indicating that this is his knee.  They deal with a lot of sports injuries and are a bit more in tune with locating generalized joint/bone/muscle pain.  A general physician is not going to be able to narrow this down because a)they aren't specialized in that area and b)don't have the necessary means in their office to rule out things via x-ray on the spot. 

If you are within a reasonable distance from a major University, check with their sports team of Orthos to see if they take walk-ins from outside of the student body.  I also spent some time with Michigan State's sport team during my rehab stages after knee surgeries.  It might be something that just needs to be worked out in rehab.

Ask the military doc(s) for referals to specialists- It's one thing if you kid woke up one day like this and was fine the next, but that's not the case.  You don't want him to have an actual medical issue, let it go, and have it cause arthritic joints or deformities later in life if it is indeed serious.  It could be nothing, too.

All of us can say "I think it's this", but the only help you can get is from a physician. 

I've tore up my joints like no other playing basketball and marching drum corps and indoor all over the country.  I've sprained my ankle in every way possible, put three stress fractures and two bone chips in my right ankle, tore my ACL in my left knee, tore the pad under my knee cap in half, tore the ligaments in my knee, had bone on bone (still do) in my left knee and right ankle, and now have arthritic joints at the age of 24 (well 24 by Saturday, hehe).  When my knee went bad the first time- severe pain when putting weight on my left leg, felt like there was an enormous amount of pressure under the knee cap, would lock with pressure while walking and eventually would pop and start all over....it just started one day and would bring tears to my eyes to stand on. Saw my family doc, she pointed me to a podiatrist and orthopedic specialist.  Podiatrist was a waste of time, Ortho took care of me.

So  now that I've typed a novel-  Best of luck with this and I hope it's something small.  Just remember that you and your son are the patient, and the doctors can't tell you what he feels or how insignificant it is.  If it's continuing, don't back off your guns- you are after all paying their wages by being in their office.