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Homer

An ill wind for gas prices
Traders say that even though you're already paying for the hurricane season, the price could spike to $6 a gallon if catastrophe strikes.

By David Goldman, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: June 1, 2008: 10:09 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Batten down the hatches: hurricane season starts on June 1. It's expected to be a rough one, threatening to upend refineries and disrupt pipelines in the southern United States.

And that could send gas prices, already nearly 20% above what they were last year, soaring even higher.

That's what happened three years ago when the Gulf Coast was battered by two hurricanes - Katrina and Rita - in the span of a few weeks.

"With the market the way it is now, a move in crude because of a hurricane could really be exacerbated," said MF Global energy analyst Don Luke.

Peter Beutel, oil analyst at Cameron Hanover Beutel, said if a Katrina-like hurricane were to hit in July, gas prices could go as high as $5 or even $6.

"The last thing this market needs at this time is a hurricane, because we can't afford to lose any of our refining capacity at this point," said Beutel. "If anything bullish happens with the market in this state, it would make it go absolutely crazy."

Like any disruption to supply, when a hurricane takes out drilling platforms and refineries, supply and demand principles lead to a jump in crude oil gasoline prices.

But even before the start to hurricane season, speculative traders have started to send oil and gas prices higher in anticipation of a hit to supplies.

"We're already seeing a hurricane premium on gas of about five to 10 cents per gallon," said Alaron Trading energy analyst Phil Flynn. "Especially since Katrina, we've seen traders build that into prices."

The last huge gas spike caused by a hurricane happened in the late summer of 2005, when Katrina and Rita brought many Americans their first glimpse at $3 a gallon for regular gas. The destruction from Hurricane Katrina alone led gasoline prices to jump 46 cents, or 17%, in just one week to a national average of $3.11, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

Though we may never again see two Category 5 hurricanes enter the Gulf of Mexico in the span of only a few weeks, it may not take a similar occurrence to see a similar boost in gas prices again. Oil prices have soared through the roof on seemingly any kind of bad news recently, so analysts admit that this hurricane season's effect on gas prices is difficult to predict.

On the other hand, if no hurricane hits this season, Beutel said gas prices may fall off a bit. But with hurricane season ending Nov. 30, we'll have to wait until December to find out.

"That would have some downward pressure on prices, but who knows where we'll be at that point - we could be a dollar higher or lower than where we are now," he said.

The perfect storm
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) released its tropical storm forecast Thursday morning, saying there is a 65% chance of a stronger-than-average hurricane season and only a 10% chance that it will be weaker than normal. The outlook indicates a 60% to 70% chance of 12 to 16 named storms, with six to nine becoming hurricanes and two to five turning into major hurricanes.

But it doesn't take a strongly active hurricane season to cause major disruption to oil drilling and gasoline production in the Gulf.

"The makeup of a storm can have all the difference," said Flynn. "Slow moving storms have a tendency to churn up underground pipelines, so you don't need a category five to do a lot of damage."

Andy Radford, policy adviser for oil industry trade group American Petroleum Institute (API), said the average hurricane halts oil drilling production for over a week. Rig workers are forced to evacuate two to three days before the storm hits, and as soon as it's safe to return, they have to check for damage and restart production.

"When the offshore oil pumps get shut down, it takes a lot to get them back on," said Radford.

He said those big storms in 2004 and 2005 did considerable damage to oil drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico, severely cutting into supply to gasoline refineries on the shore.

Though slow-moving, weak tropical storms over the Gulf of Mexico can halt oil drilling, powerful hurricanes that hit land can knock out refineries. That's because about 40% of U.S. refining capacity is located on the Gulf Coast, namely in oft-hit states like Texas and Louisiana. After Katrina and Rita, 30% of Gulf Coast refineries were shut down or operating with reductions.

"Because refining of crude oil into gasoline and other oil products is critical to meeting our nation's daily energy needs, disruptions in these operations can have an immediate impact on the nation's gasoline supply and petrochemicals," said Royal Dutch Shell Plc (RDSA) spokeswoman Robin Lebovitz.

And even though NOAA predicted a high number of strong, named storms for the 2008 season, no one can tell whether or not they will make landfall.

"You can have a very active season but none will make landfall, or a very inactive season but they all hit land," said NOAA spokesman Dennis Feltgen. "There's no way to predict if they will hit yet, because that science just doesn't exist."

It's rare for a refinery to be totally knocked out by a hurricane, but many are susceptible to wind and water damage that can limit supply to and from the facilities. Similar to offshore drilling platforms, refineries are sometimes shut down for more than a week before they can return to full operability, according to API Refining Issues Manager Cindy Schild.

Part of the reason Katrina and Rita led to such a spike in gas prices was that there weren't enough functional facilities to make up for the lost output. Although capacity at many U.S. oil refineries has been expanded, there hasn't been a new refinery built in the United States in three decades

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Homer

The insanity has got to stop somewhere.

Damn oil people just keep getting richer at our expense

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Tara

Yep, raising prices before a hurricane has even been spotted is sad.  :((

harley89

Last year we could fill both motorcycles for under $6.00 Now it is over $11.00 to fill them both. But it sure is cheaper than filling my car up.

Tara

Quote from: harley89 on June 01, 2008, 01:08:15 PM
Last year we could fill both motorcycles for under $6.00 Now it is over $11.00 to fill them both. But it sure is cheaper than filling my car up.

I filled up yesterday. $61.00  girls18.gif

Stinkerbell

At our local Chevron, the pump automatically turns off at $60.00.  It takes at least $70.00 to fill my van.

cranky


harley89

even scarry I have seen some projections at $8.00 per gallon.

pammer


Candyred32

I heard this morning on my local news, that Georgia gas taxes may go up. I hope not our gas prices are already at $4.00 a gallon.

Stinkerbell

Quote from: Candyred32 on June 02, 2008, 05:30:01 AM
I heard this morning on my local news, that Georgia gas taxes may go up. I hope not our gas prices are already at $4.00 a gallon.

But, isn't it John McCain and Billary Clinton who are campaigning and saying that they want to put a temporary hold on gas taxes?  And Obama saying that's not a good idea?  I think gas taxes should be paid by the oil companies and they need to be regulated because like H said earlier, we are struggling at the pumps and the oil people are struggling to get all that money to the banks.

Candyred32

Quote from: Stinkerbell on June 02, 2008, 07:18:31 AM
But, isn't it John McCain and Billary Clinton who are campaigning and saying that they want to put a temporary hold on gas taxes?  And Obama saying that's not a good idea?  I think gas taxes should be paid by the oil companies and they need to be regulated because like H said earlier, we are struggling at the pumps and the oil people are struggling to get all that money to the banks.

I agree. Do they not think our gas prices are high enough.

Stinkerbell

We have a longtime family friend working for Chevron in Kazakstan (sp?) and he says there's enough oil there to supply the US for years... with NO Saudi oil.

Tara


Homer

Quote from: Stinkerbell on June 03, 2008, 11:56:26 AM
We have a longtime family friend working for Chevron in Kazakstan (sp?) and he says there's enough oil there to supply the US for years... with NO Saudi oil.

You didn't tell me you knew Borat.  :)) :)) :))

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SpunkyGirl

The gas prices are totally insane.  Here in CA, we are paying as of last night, at the cheapest station $4.25.   In the morning it was $4.23.  Forget the rest, I've seen them as high as 4.50.  I asked my husband, if we should get a horse and buggy and he just laughed, but I'm serious.  He said they'd probably tax us more on the horse and buggy.

Tara

Gas is going back up today...It went up .25 a gallon  about an hour ago.  girls18.gif

Stinkerbell

Quote from: SpunkyGirl on June 06, 2008, 12:48:09 PM
The gas prices are totally insane.  Here in CA, we are paying as of last night, at the cheapest station $4.25.   In the morning it was $4.23.  Forget the rest, I've seen them as high as 4.50.  I asked my husband, if we should get a horse and buggy and he just laughed, but I'm serious.  He said they'd probably tax us more on the horse and buggy.

I paid $4.39 this morning - what a crock.  And yes, someone in the oil industry would pass a bill saying the horses had to be rubbed down with a gallon of oil per day, or their shoes would have to be made with some kind of petroleum and they'd still have their hands in our pockets.

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