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Mayhem

Nothing spoils a good story like the arrival of an eyewitness.

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Thisnamenottaken

That was very thought provoking..... now Im really confused ???

SoaringUSAEagle

Quote from: Mayhem on September 03, 2004, 01:57:53 PM
Intresting flash video on what hit the pentagon ...

http://pages.infinit.net/noc/pentagon.swf

That was definitely worth sharing...  Very interesting for sure.  Because yeah, we never really heard and NEVER seen the video of the pentagon issue.  We saw the twin towers over and over with that second plane hitting. 

I dont really know what to say besides... Interesting...

Dream Faerie


SoaringUSAEagle

Quote from: Dream Faerie on September 04, 2004, 12:30:45 PM
I get nothing when I go to that site  :'(

Give it time to load.  It's about a 5-7 minute long movie... takes time to load.

Dream Faerie

Quote from: SoaringUSAEagle on September 04, 2004, 12:31:31 PM
Quote from: Dream Faerie on September 04, 2004, 12:30:45 PM
I get nothing when I go to that site  :'(

Give it time to load.  It's about a 5-7 minute long movie... takes time to load.
OK, I will try again, I am on a cable modem & the bottom says DONE, so I thought it was done.. OK, Wish me luck, here I go....

Dream Faerie

I can't explain it AWAY.But, I CAN tell you there have been other "conspiracy theory" suggestions. Including the suggestion that the CIA actually was the direct funding behind the terrorists that flew into the WTC and planted evidence that Osama was at fault, to get public opinion behind the effort to get Osama. But let me ask you this one simple question which the film didn't address ...

IF it wasn't flight 77 that flew into the Pentagon, where DID Flight 77 go TO? WHAT happened to Flight 77 if it DIDN'T crash into the Pentagon? So what if they didn't find big parts of the airplane there, they only found small parts and ONE landing gear set at the WTC site, no luggage, no chairs, no wing parts, no tail section. Airplanes are made of ALUMINUM, a very light metal that melts and dissipates like water in high temperature sustained fires like the type that would happen if there were a crash with full fuel tanks of JET fuel into a HUGE structure like the pentagon. Remember, the largest identifiable body piece they found at the WTC (besides the jumpers) was a part of a hand with 2 partial fingers still attached, and they found only a piece of the passport page with about half the picture of one of the terrorists.

Remember, they found no chairs, no desks, no computers, no briefcases, no office refrigerators, water coolers, safes, bookcases, nothing they could identify as anything specific at the WTC site, the plane crashes had set fires down elevator shafts with tens of thousands of gallons of Jet fuel, the inside of the Trade Center Towers were essentially blast furnaces hot enough to melt concrete and steel. And don't forget the heat added from the friction of the actual collapse. it got so hot, nothing survived. Concrete melted and evaporated, steel did too, even diamonds were vaporized, and it takes about 40thousand degrees F to MAKE diamonds for Oil drills! Here's an idea of how hot it was, have you noticed there were no Aerial views of the WTC from directly overhead except for satellite images? It was SO HOT, the turbulence was too much for even military surveillance aircraft to fly over. Helicopters couldn't get within a quarter mile without being in danger of being swept up into the updraft. You might ask why the heat didn't cause greater fires in the immediate area, because the furnace collapsed into the huge multi-level sub-basement parking and subway area, the heat could only radiate upwards. Remember, when they finished clearing the sub levels of the WTC, they were down to bedrock, the foundation had melted away.

And I Personally watched the 2nd plane go into the 2nd tower. AS most of us did, So thats my input...

LadyMystik

That's just sick. And, by the way, there were pictures and video released of the Pentagon impact.

By the way...you want to know what would happen to an airplane that hits a building?



How many vehicles of ANY KIND would be able to withstand that???

And, to argue the case of that video, YES, there was damage to the ground. I was there shortly after the attacks. The grass wan't too green on that side.

Keep in mind while viewing that stuff, that that building is HUGE!! You could say 'Oh, look at that tiny hole!' and be ignorant. Look at it this way...compare the size of the whole to the people standing in front of it. MORE than enough room for a large plane.

Another point: Security tapes may not have been released in their entirety to the media, but portions of them were, including shots found on CNN.com, as well as other sites.

If you were in charge of security at a place that was being attacked, wouldn't you take the tapes A.S.A.P. too? Or, would you immediately turn them over to the media?

Common sense.

Super Duckie

here is the Link http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon-victims.htm to honour those who died in the Pentagon crash on September 11th

Super Duckie

ok guys, this takes some time to load but here are amazing pictures of the devistation of the plane hitting the Pentagon



http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

Dream Faerie

As a Member of the Ladies Auxillary 2327 out of Elgin,(Before Sept 11)  I still stand by my opinion... The hole IS perfectly round AND much smaller than any other plane crash I have seen. I Understand people said they were there, BUT people were not allowed close enough to the crash site AND the lawn was covered with rocks/Sand/Cement for vehicles to make it through, How could they see it all.... Anyways, God Bless America!

LadyMystik

Quote from: Dream Faerie on September 05, 2004, 11:10:16 PM
As a Member of the Ladies Auxillary 2327 out of Elgin,(Before Sept 11)  I still stand by my opinion... The hole IS perfectly round AND much smaller than any other plane crash I have seen. I Understand people said they were there, BUT people were not allowed close enough to the crash site AND the lawn was covered with rocks/Sand/Cement for vehicles to make it through, How could they see it all.... Anyways, God Bless America!

I got into the Pentagon. Don't tell me people weren't allowed close enough to see. Many were not. But those of us who have family members who worked in there WERE. Family members whose offices were completely demolished...family members who would have died had the timing been right (not right in a good way, but you know what I mean)...Want pictures to prove it?

I'm not saying I saw EVERYTHING, but maybe when 'people say they were there,' they had a reason to be.

Dream Faerie

Quote from: LadyMystik on September 06, 2004, 02:38:13 AM
Quote from: Dream Faerie on September 05, 2004, 11:10:16 PM
As a Member of the Ladies Auxillary 2327 out of Elgin,(Before Sept 11)  I still stand by my opinion... The hole IS perfectly round AND much smaller than any other plane crash I have seen. I Understand people said they were there, BUT people were not allowed close enough to the crash site AND the lawn was covered with rocks/Sand/Cement for vehicles to make it through, How could they see it all.... Anyways, God Bless America!

I got into the Pentagon. Don't tell me people weren't allowed close enough to see. Many were not. But those of us who have family members who worked in there WERE. Family members whose offices were completely demolished...family members who would have died had the timing been right (not right in a good way, but you know what I mean)...Want pictures to prove it?

I'm not saying I saw EVERYTHING, but maybe when 'people say they were there,' they had a reason to be.

Then you were one of the few allowed.No, I don't need the pictures to prove it..I believe you. I have a right to my opinion & am always open for correction if I need to be corrected. I'm sure it must have been rough for you, but I am so glad you had the strength to go..Many could not handle that. So God Bless you for being there for your family, even though it wasnt an easy task!

Super Duckie

Quote from: usnavyjo1 on September 06, 2004, 07:36:55 PM
Funny I never noticed this post before... duckie, what are you trying to stir up?

I have friends who personally saw the plane hit the pentagon that day... it was a 757. Don't know what kind of agenda the guy who made that site is all about, but he is so far reaching that it shows that he has no clue as to what happened. He should talk to the military people who worked there that day. My friend was driving into work late and saw it happen right in front of him. I'd write the guy who made the site, but obviously he'd never believe the truth.

what do u mean what am i trying to stir up, i just posted it b/c it has to do with the post that was posted so i posted it

Dream Faerie

Quote from: Super Duckie on September 06, 2004, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: usnavyjo1 on September 06, 2004, 07:36:55 PM
Funny I never noticed this post before... duckie, what are you trying to stir up?

I have friends who personally saw the plane hit the pentagon that day... it was a 757. Don't know what kind of agenda the guy who made that site is all about, but he is so far reaching that it shows that he has no clue as to what happened. He should talk to the military people who worked there that day. My friend was driving into work late and saw it happen right in front of him. I'd write the guy who made the site, but obviously he'd never believe the truth.

what do u mean what am i trying to stir up, i just posted it b/c it has to do with the post that was posted so i posted it

Give me a break!!! You are getting on My case AND Duckies case because we have a difference in Opinion.. Big Deal.. Thats why this is AMERICA THE LAND OF THE FREE! & it is because of the military AND our president (how good or rotten he is) that allows this country to have difference in opinion. Doesnt mean we wanna start anything.

I have many friends who I debate back & forth with in a friendly manner.. Im sorry not all are kind enough to let others have their own opinions..

Super Duckie

yea, and also if you haven't seen, that page i posted was dedicated to those who lost their lives in the pentagon crash..  He had every good intention of making that page for those of us to see what really happened

Dream Faerie

Quote from: Super Duckie on September 06, 2004, 09:06:54 PM
yea, and also if you haven't seen, that page i posted was dedicated to those who lost their lives in the pentagon crash..  He had every good intention of making that page for those of us to see what really happened

Duckie, Drop it, They dont care about our opinions..

Super Duckie

just b/c 1 person don't care isn't stopping me from giving my opinion, i am entitled to it

Dream Faerie

Quote from: Super Duckie on September 06, 2004, 09:17:51 PM
just b/c 1 person don't care isn't stopping me from giving my opinion, i am entitled to it

I thought I was too until I was Bashed!

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