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[quote author=silvrcraze link=msg=106480 date=1134497493]
I was raised up north.  Half my family was from the south and was southern babtist.  1/4 was Catholic and the rest Christian.  I myself do not follow "the Christian way" like many people do.  ONE IMPORTANT THING THAT I WAS TAUGHT WAS TOO ACCEPT EVERYONE AND THAT IT'S NOT MY JOB TO JUDGE ANYONE.  America was born as a melting pot of different nationalities, races, and religions.  Why did we leave England in the first place?  Why did many of our ancestors come here?  Some came for freedom, some came to get away from dictatorship, some came for the opportunities, some came so that they can be themselves and NOT WHAT SOMEONE SAYS THEY SHOULD BE.  We are suppose to accept people's differences.  If I am unsure about someone's religious preference I will say Happy Holidays because at the same time I don't want anyone pushing their religion on me no matter what it is.  In the south they are very religious and pushy which makes me rebel against them.  I can argue with them in an intelligent matter and stump them.

I know this has been said many times in this topic.  MATERIALISTIC.........  if this holiday is so important then you need to take charge and make it what it was originally meant to be if you really want to make a difference.  Start with that then work way up.  I bet these people complaining have also spent A LOT of money on presents and decorations.  Go back to the basics.  Get rid of the lights and parties.  No presents under the tree.  How about these people that actually want to cancel Sunday church services because Christmas falls on that day??????  Yeah in some towns the services have been canceled and/or they've made arrangements for service on other days.  Pick and choose huh?

If we really want to get into a religious discussion.........then most people need to change what they are to fit their lifestyle back into the bible.  [color=Red]DOES THE BIBLE SAY IT'S OK TO CHEAT???????????????????? [/color]  You can't pick and choose what you want to follow and you definately can't pick and choose what you think is right and wrong for someone else. 
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Posted by Tina123

- December 18, 2005, 10:51:40 AM

I agree with Madonna 100%. Live and let live. Merry Christmas!!

Posted by bubblegum

- December 18, 2005, 08:00:06 AM

one thing that makes me cough and gag during this time of the year is how can people spend a grand for presents? I'm talking about those few people who feel it wouldn't be Christmas unless they spend like 500 bucks on the kids, a gazillion bucks on their spouse, and another gazillion and a half on relatives? What ever happened to just a cookie tin filled with homemade cookies, a card and a simple greeting? In my family were not huge on gifts, esp since my family is comprised of 5 different collections of faiths. For Christams the gifts include an annual pass to the local zoo, season tickets to the local ballet company and some homemade candy-that kind of stuff. For those in my family that aren't Christean, they do celebrate Christmas in a round about way. They take their family out to the fanciest restaurant open and then see a movie. :)

Posted by janet

- December 18, 2005, 07:49:30 AM

I meant the news on the TV, Madonna, not the news from you.

Posted by Madonna

- December 17, 2005, 07:48:31 AM

That might be my best option...just turn it off and tune it out. What you don't know won't make your blood pressure rise and won't cause any hard feelings. So I'll just say have a merry one y'all...and no more news for Madonna ;D.

Posted by janet

- December 15, 2005, 04:57:21 PM

We all love you Madonna girl.

Sometimes we all get a little stupid because something or someone irritates us. I just try to tune it out. In my thoughts, there is always something good to be found in the bad stuff, rather it be people or deeds. I always look for the good even though it is well hidden sometimes. Not speaking of any of you regarding that bad comment, just all of that stuff I see on TV. Got to start turning the news off again. Hope that came out right. ;)

Posted by Madonna

- December 15, 2005, 04:01:24 PM

I withdrew my comment about the southern Baptist ...not all are bad. I will not withdraw my comment on Jerry Falwell...he's an idiot...period. He judges everyone...telling them that they are bad and going to hell...his views. I agree...it is not Christian to judge, but he does it without batting an eye. The comment on thank heavens I'm not Baptist has been edited because it was TACKY for me to say that. Who am I to judge an entire religion based on my views on 1 bad apple. Every religion is different, to some degree or another, and mine is no better. So please forgive me for my oh so "horrid" comment. ::)

Posted by nanners

- December 15, 2005, 07:40:54 AM

So well said Janetdebra.. Merry Christmas!

Posted by janet

- December 15, 2005, 07:03:37 AM

God is God no matter how we chose to praise him. I believe he gave us different religions because we are all different and so are our needs. He doesn't care and loves us all, so should we. I am a "believer", that means I take a little bit from each religion and I rejoice in it. I am glad it is all there for me to learn from. This may come from the phrase "Love thy neighbor," they are all different. If we were all the same, it would be a pretty boring world, don't you think.

Posted by Bree

- December 15, 2005, 12:26:00 AM

I agree with you Madonna and Beanie, because I am from the south also. I live in Louisiana and people put us down everyday 24/7. I think the majority of the people in Louisiana are Catholic, but no one puts down the other religions. My mother is Catholic and my father is Baptist and we were taught about both religions even though my mother raised my brother and I as Catholics. We learned a lot about the Baptist religion, but we followed the Catholic religion. It was a decision we got to choose once we were old enough to make that decision. We went to Catholics Schools all of our lives, but we had friends from all type of Religions going to our Elementary and High School. It is not a religious thing that I think everyone on the forum should think about, it is letting us say what we want to say and if they do not like it them that is fine. Just do not tell us what to say and we will not tell you what to say. The Lord must be looking down on us and thinking what is the world coming too. Please remember "Peace On Earth Goodwill Toward Men" and have a Merry Christmas.

Posted by beanie

- December 15, 2005, 12:19:42 AM

I for one believe in saying Merry Christmas and there will be no one who can change the way I want to celebrate the Holiday. But I did take offense to when reading this thread was the comment made about Southern Baptist. I first am a Christian but secondly I belong to a Southern Baptist church. I am not very vocal and am not pushy but I can understand how some are- this country is going to hell in handbasket quick and it is very fearful to see how it has fallen so quickly. I think it is horrid to say "thank heaven" I'm not a Southern Baptist- I don't go around putting down other religions. Its really funny- it upsets someone to have all southerners lumped together and judged but then they do the very exact thing. Judge not least you be judged.. I am a Christian, I am a Southern Baptist, I am a Southerner (Florida) but above all I am a human-being with feeling and all the frailty of man. I still struggle like everyone else to do what is good and sometimes it is the hardest thing in the world to do when others don't have restraint and tolerance for other Christians. Enough said-- I'm done.

Posted by Madonna

- December 14, 2005, 11:54:48 PM

Well, silver, I happen to be from Alabama. You are saying that we are pushy with religion. The leader of Southern Baptists, (which is what gives the South a bad name) Jerry Falwell, likes to stick his nose in everything and make the South look like a bunch of dimwitted idiots. Trust me when I say that the South is not the problem...Jerry Falwell and his narrow minded views are. As for challenging "the South" to a religious debate so you can stump us...truth being, you prolly can some, but you would have a huge challenge. But let me tell you, there are some highly intelligent people from the South...so stop making the entire South seem like we need to be strumming banjoes and picking our noses. Just because you are from the North makes you no better than anyone else. So lower your nose (seeing as it is stuck in the air, being all uppity), because it's rainy/snowy season and you might DROWN. And seeing as your so "Christian", i don't recall reading in the Bible about the North being any better than the South. Your opinion belongs back in Civil War times. Remember American History??? Thank you, drive thru...have a good day Y'all.

Posted by justahumping

- December 14, 2005, 10:20:04 AM

Quote from: Madonna on December 07, 2005, 11:29:48 PM
I don't usually speak out like this unless it is a topic dear to my heart. There is a bruhaha going on about whether or not you should say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays anymore. Some bad apples that have nothing better to do than to ruin yet another holiday have said it is "offensive" to say those 2 famous greetings we all love to hear at this time of year. Stores have resorted to saying "Seasons Greetings" when you walk in, which is fine and dandy. What I want to know is, where do these people get off telling me, or anyone, what should be said when I want to celebrate with the people I care for. I love this country, for the most part, and to take Christmas or Holiday away because it is offensive is ludicrous. I understand there are other religions beside Christianity in this country...but you don't see us saying...oh...Haunakah or Kwanzaa, or whatever "offends" us. We all should celebrate in peace and harmony, regardless of our religious preferences. And if you are atheists...a bah humbug to you too...but you also have that right. Just don't ruin our fun and our beliefs just because you may not agree with them. And least we not forget that without Christ there would be no Christmas. If I offended anyone on this forum, I sincerely apologize. To those I didn't...MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all. :-*

VERY WELL SAID! and Thank you!........ I will add, have a very merry CHRISTmas..... I mean, isnt that waht that day is??????

Posted by Albee

- December 13, 2005, 03:19:54 PM

I'll have a Merry bottle of taquila!

Posted by silvrcraze

- December 13, 2005, 12:47:28 PM

Yes everyone should be able to say what they want and generally people mean no harm when they wish anyone a Happy this or Merry that. Usually they are just trying to be polite and cheerful.

It's just that some people don't understand where the line should be drawn. It's one thing to say something to someone but it's another thing to represent one religion as being superior than the others.

Posted by bubblegum

- December 13, 2005, 12:22:14 PM

happy, merry whatever you choose to celebrate however you choose to celebrate ;D