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Posted by Harleygurl5150
 - March 24, 2008, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: Stinkerbell on March 01, 2008, 06:29:22 PM
We have ALL hit hard times at one time or another but it does not make stealing okay.  Period, End of story. 

AMEN
Posted by Stinkerbell
 - March 01, 2008, 09:27:50 PM
Quote from: Homer on March 01, 2008, 06:36:28 PM
All that means is that this is the first time he has been caught. Who knows how long he has been getting away with stuff like that.

That's what I'm thinking, too. 

The Deputy called us back tonight after they arrested the guy - who will be spending the weekend in jail - and gave us all the details.  That guy wrote a letter of apology to us, asking for our forgiveness in the matter.  I am torn up about this.  As a Christian, I know we are to forgive one another's "tresspasses".  "Let he who is without sin...."  (though I've never stolen a credit card or anything else for that matter.) On the other hand, this man broke the law and will continue breaking it as long as he can get away with it.

See, I've never had dealings this close to the law before.  I'm learning all kinds of things.  He's being charged with Identity Fraud, Theft (the card) and Burglary because in the state of California, if you enter into any establishment with the intent to commit fraud or steal, it's burglary.  So, the guy purchased (with our card) gift cards... AMEX and a restaurant card.  He took the AMEX card into 2 other stores, used them and that's burglary against those stores.  Then, he took the family to dinner using the stolen gift card... again, burglary. 

AND did you know that if you're a Staples employee and you're having financial problems, you can go to your manager and explain the situation, and Staples makes loans to their employees to assist them through rough times.

So... anyone reading this who might have thoughts of trying something like this..... don't do it.  It's not worth ruining your life.... you WILL get caught.

 
Posted by Homer
 - March 01, 2008, 06:36:28 PM
All that means is that this is the first time he has been caught. Who knows how long he has been getting away with stuff like that.
Posted by Stinkerbell
 - March 01, 2008, 06:29:22 PM
Well, the guy confessed and gave his story - going through a divorce, mother had a stroke and he wanted to take her to dinner, wanted to buy some gifts for his kids... blah freakin' blah, blah as far as I'm concerned.  MAYBE all that is true, and if it is, God Bless him, welcome to the club.  We have ALL hit hard times at one time or another but it does not make stealing okay.  Period, End of story.  And the total charges were at OVER $800.00... that's one he** of a dinner.  They tell me he has no priors... don't know if it's true or not.... 40+ years old.... if he had never done anything like this before, then how was he so good at it?  Knew to purchase gift cards so they wouldn't be traced... I'm not buying it.  And like I told them, I may have no choice as to whether or not we should press charges.  The bank gave me back my money, so I'm no longer the victim, the bank is.  Once Staples gives the bank back their money, the bank is no longer the victim, Staples is.  Anyway, I will fill out the affidavit for the bank with all I know and wait for the DA to contact us.  Just wanted to keep ya's posted.
Posted by harley89
 - February 25, 2008, 10:51:31 AM
Glad it appears to be working out.  I hate dishonest people that steal from others. I work for what I got and everybody can do the same. Hope they throw the book at the employee . And Staples might want to reconsider the whole camera thing
Posted by Stinkerbell
 - February 25, 2008, 10:17:32 AM
Quote from: Harleygurl5150 on February 25, 2008, 09:52:47 AM

OK sorry about babbling, it just makes me angry as I had it happen to me also!! !@#$

I know how frustrating it is.  About 6 years ago, we were customers of a very large bank... well, said bank opened a checking account for someone named Tasha Muhammud using my HUSBANDS SS#.  HELLO!!  We were already in the banks system and they didn't catch it.  So, said bank gave said Tasha an ATM card which said Tasha took to said banks ATM and somehow commited ATM fraud.  So, said bank reports said Tasha's SS# which also happens to be said husbands SS# to some banking fraud place and when we tried to leave that said bank because we were fed up with them, said husband couldn't open an account at any other bank for 5 years.  It was like pulling teeth to get said bank to remove said hubby from their fraud list. SHEEEEESH.
Posted by Homer
 - February 25, 2008, 10:16:19 AM
Go get'em!  police.gif
Posted by Stinkerbell
 - February 25, 2008, 10:11:27 AM
I just got another call from the GM and he called the Deputy that is filing the report.  When the Dep gets on this afternoon, the GM wants the 2 of them (he and the Dep) to go across the street to the Chevron and review their cameras --- we have the exact time so it shouldn't be hard.  Same employee using the card at Staples, that employee shows up on Chevrons cameras.... done deal.  Either way, the GM told me that the employee will be fired (they know who it is) and with the police report, will most likely be prosecuted too.
Posted by Harleygurl5150
 - February 25, 2008, 09:52:47 AM
I had my whole purse stolen and it doesn't take long for them !!@#$%^& to abuse your card and ring up things above and beyond your imagination.  Mine was used for a 1-900 line! Had to change numbers, put a security question on my account at the bank which I have to answer everytime I go to use it. Its just unfortunate people have to be like this, I mean come on, are they thinking you will just go home see that it's missing and say Hmmm Oh well I will pay for someone else's charges LOL and not go to find out where it went? Or report it missing? Like they will never get caught? DUH! Ignorance.  And about the cameras..You can have a friend or someone go in the store and look for them, there not hard to spot.  They could be in Black bubbles in the ceiling or it would be the whole Ceiling tile itself.  I work retail and I can almost promise you they HAVE cameras!  Then take a cell phone with a camera on it and snap some pics.  Also if you look around there may even be a two way like mirror which is for the management to sit behind or a control room door.  They have too many high end like items in that store not to have cameras, Dollar stores have cameras for crying out loud!!

OK sorry about babbling, it just makes me angry as I had it happen to me also!! !@#$
Posted by Homer
 - February 25, 2008, 09:47:19 AM
Sounds like they were trying to protect someone. I'm glad you pursued this.
Posted by Stinkerbell
 - February 25, 2008, 09:23:06 AM
First thing this morning, I called the Office of the President at Staples, reported what was going on and they were very upset and concerned.  They contacted that stores general manager and within 20 minutes I got a call back, taking all the information and times, amounts, etc.... and they told me that from what they could tell initially, 1 employee was using the card to purchase gift cards.  The purchases were made within minutes of each other.  The store is contacting their Fraud Control department and said they will be getting back to me soon.  I'm so glad they are taking this seriously.... after the way the store's asst manager made it sound yesterday, there wan't much they could do, and that she saw nothing to indicate that it was an employee.

A little update, the additional purchases ATTEMPTED were 4.  The 2 that went through, then 4 more.  The additional 4 attempts totalled over $600.00.

What I am learning here is that time is of the essence!  By catching it so early on, they can easily get to the employee who was either allowing this to happen, or doing it themselves. 

Oh, and by the way... that store does NOT have cameras.  The GM said that for whatever reason, Staples dodesn't like to put cameras in their stores.

I'll keep you updated as this unfolds.
Posted by Homer
 - February 24, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: Stinkerbell on February 24, 2008, 07:16:22 PM
We just filed a report, officer just left.  They are on their way to Staples right now to talk to them, but it's Sunday and I am guessing they are closed by now.  The officers said they can't believe Staples has no cameras either, and that it seems fishy to them.  I feel better having made a report too.

Yeah...it didn't sound right to me either. Who knows...maybe it was the manager doing it. :-\
Posted by Stinkerbell
 - February 24, 2008, 07:16:22 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 24, 2008, 06:42:48 PM
That is what I would do. I have trouble believing a chain like Staples doesn't have security cameras.

They may be trying to protect the clerk who didn't return the card.

We just filed a report, officer just left.  They are on their way to Staples right now to talk to them, but it's Sunday and I am guessing they are closed by now.  The officers said they can't believe Staples has no cameras either, and that it seems fishy to them.  I feel better having made a report too.
Posted by Homer
 - February 24, 2008, 06:42:48 PM
Quote from: Stinkerbell on February 24, 2008, 06:38:45 PM
Yeah, I think I need to contact the police and see what they think I should do.

That is what I would do. I have trouble believing a chain like Staples doesn't have security cameras.

They may be trying to protect the clerk who didn't return the card.
Posted by Stinkerbell
 - February 24, 2008, 06:38:45 PM
Quote from: harley89 on February 24, 2008, 06:15:54 PM
My Mother had that happen too her Americn Express. it was the deck clerk at the  hotel taking the cc numbers and buying things. He got got because AE saw unusal purchases and called her. They traced it back to the hotel employee.  And Stinker I do not buy that the Staples doesnt have cameras. Maybe you need to file a complaint or look into filing criminal charges

Yeah, I think I need to contact the police and see what they think I should do.