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Posted by arniebear
- January 24, 2009, 02:29:32 PMQuoteHonestly, its much easier to do it yourself. Just stand and sit until you get a good hand. Make sure in your options you say you can lead with hearts. Throw that A of hearts then the K then the Q and by the time you get to the J you should have control of the game and have the badge.
:^*
Posted by Tara
- January 24, 2009, 10:49:37 AMQuote from: Joe C on January 24, 2009, 08:16:55 AM
I am sure you will get it. You could always ask for help.
This is one type of challenge that Uncle Otto is poorly suited to get, just from the nature of the Pogo Bots. Much easier to double-browse or find a partner.
:^*
Honestly, its much easier to do it yourself. Just stand and sit until you get a good hand. Make sure in your options you say you can lead with hearts. Throw that A of hearts then the K then the Q and by the time you get to the J you should have control of the game and have the badge.
Posted by Joe C
- January 24, 2009, 08:16:55 AMQuote from: Tara on January 24, 2009, 08:11:41 AMI am sure you will get it. You could always ask for help.
:%# I don't have to read your novel (although it was nice of you to post it for others) I know how to get the badge. :P
Now watch me not be able to get it. :)))
This is one type of challenge that Uncle Otto is poorly suited to get, just from the nature of the Pogo Bots. Much easier to double-browse or find a partner.
:^*
Posted by Tara
- January 24, 2009, 08:11:41 AMQuote from: Joe C on January 24, 2009, 07:09:44 AM
I guess I should cut my previous post in half so Tara has less she has to read.
:))) :))) :)))
:%# I don't have to read your novel (although it was nice of you to post it for others) I know how to get the badge. :P
Now watch me not be able to get it. :)))
Posted by Joe C
- January 24, 2009, 07:09:44 AMQuote from: arniebear on January 24, 2009, 05:23:40 AMI guess I should cut my previous post in half so Tara has less she has to read.
Pogo must have heard whines, it you will now only have to do it 2x instead of the original 4x. Things are looking up for me I now only gethalf the misery <..>
:))) :))) :)))
Posted by arniebear
- January 24, 2009, 05:23:40 AMPogo must have heard whines, it you will now only have to do it 2x instead of the original 4x. Things are looking up for me I now only gethalf the misery <..>
Posted by Joe C
- January 23, 2009, 09:52:25 PMQuote from: Tara on January 23, 2009, 09:40:57 PM
:))) (OO)
:-\ Does that mean you'll have time to read it? :)))
O+O O+O O+O O+O
Reading is FUN-damental
Posted by Tara
- January 23, 2009, 09:40:57 PMQuote from: jarjar on January 23, 2009, 07:07:19 PM
Tara everyday of my life here you put a smile on my face (OO) And a giggle too :)))
:))) (OO)
Quote from: Joe C on January 23, 2009, 05:48:27 PM
Thanks, I will be here the whole week
:-\ Does that mean you'll have time to read it? :)))
Posted by jarjar
- January 23, 2009, 07:07:19 PMQuote from: Tara on January 23, 2009, 04:29:37 PMTara everyday of my life here you put a smile on my face (OO) And a giggle too :)))
Good gawd, you can have the badge before you get done reading this novel. :P
Posted by Squid
- January 23, 2009, 06:20:45 PM :-\
Posted by Joe C
- January 23, 2009, 05:48:27 PMQuote from: Tara on January 23, 2009, 04:29:37 PMThanks, I will be here the whole week
Good gawd, you can have the badge before you get done reading this novel. :P
Posted by Tara
- January 23, 2009, 04:29:37 PMQuote from: Joe C on January 23, 2009, 12:56:12 PM
I will make myself available to help.
Sorry I have not put instructions here yet on how to double-browse or work with a partner to shoot the moon frequently.
The short version is this. Set up a table with ADVANCED OPTIONS "Pass Across" selected and NO OTHER selections.
Make sure that the "Jack Of Diamonds is worth -5 points" is not selected.
Make sure you choose "Hearts cannot be broken on first trick"
Make sure you choose "Hearts cannot be lead until they are broken"
Make sure you choose "2 of Clubs lead off"
You and partner sit across from each other.
SHOOT THE MOON means capture ALL 26 points available in the hand. A hand is made of 13 tricks. Winning all 13 tricks is called SHOOT THE SUN, but this is not required for any badges yet. The 26 points are comprised of: 13 points for the Queen of Spades, and one point for each Heart. The QUEEN OF SPADES is considered a HEART for points, but not for taking a trick. Be advised that HEARTS are not trump for any trick. The suit that is led is the TRUMP for that trick. Playing other suits (when void of the lead suit) is called sloughing or dumping.
The way to shoot the moon is the same either with double-browsing or with a partner. With a partner, you will have to chat prior to passing, to coordinate your actions.
SHOOT THE MOON means capture ALL 26 points available in the hand. A hand is made of 13 tricks. Winning all 13 tricks is called SHOOT THE SUN, but this is not required for any badges yet.
Basic philosophy of shooting the moon.
You do not need to have any HEARTS in your hand to shoot the moon. (You just need to win every trick with points)
The Pogo Bots try VERY VERY hard to prevent ANY player from shooting the moon. They accomplish this by saving ONE heart to play on a trick someone else is going to win once Hearts are broken.
Little hearts (2-10) will almost always prevent you from shooting the moon if they are in your hand.
You will need a lot of "boss" cards to shoot the moon. A-K-Q-J in order.
The best hands to shoot the moon are UNBALANCED. This means you have a lot more one suit, such as seven total diamonds.
The goal is to get to a point where no one else can take a trick other than you BEFORE someone else wins a trick with a HEART in it.
Pass low hearts and other low cards.
Hearts is where the POGO BOTS try their hardest to stop you. A-K-J Hearts looks like a great hand to use, but in reality, if one of the POGO BOTS has the Q Hearts and 2 other Hearts, YOU WILL NOT SHOOT THE MOON. The bots will stop you.
How your partner plays after the pass is just as important as passing you cards. Basically, you need to get rid of those cards that will not win tricks.
If you have a low card (other than Hearts, which probably stops you), you need to play it one the FIRST trick of that suit.
Hopefully, your partner will take the tricks where you dump your low cards and then lead in the suit that allows you to win the game and shoot the moon.
HOLDING the Queen of SPADES (you or partner) is very desirable, too.
I can shoot the moon about once every four hands when double-browsing. Some hands are just impossible, even when you "control" two of the four players.
Here is an example (C = Clubs, D = Diamonds, H = Hearts and S = Spades)
Pre-pass
You (trying to shoot the moon)
C - 2,4,5,Q,K
D - 10,Q,A
S - 2,K,A
H - 3,K
Partner
C- 7,J,A
D- 2,3,6,7,K
S - 3,10,Q
H - 8,A
So, you would pass 3H, 4C and 5C or 3H, 4C and 2S.
Your partner would pass AH, QS and AC.
After passing, you have the following problems:
You are holding 2C, which means you lead the first trick. One less chance to get rid of low clubs.
you have either 5C or 2S, which are low cards
Partner holds KD, which could stop you.
So, you play 2C to start, you partner WINS trick with JC.
Partner lead 10S (if you kept 2S) or 7C (if you kept 5C, which is the riskier choice, since 7C may not win trick)
Partner leads KD, which you take with AD.
You are now in the lead and NO ONE can take any tricks from you. This means, you get all the hearts including the Queen of Spades.
Congratulations, you shot the moon.
With practice, you, too, can shoot it 1 out of 4 hands.
Good gawd, you can have the badge before you get done reading this novel. :P
Posted by Stinkerbell
- January 23, 2009, 02:46:24 PMQuote from: Joe C on January 23, 2009, 02:01:50 PM
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Posted by Joe C
- January 23, 2009, 02:01:50 PMQuote from: Stinkerbell on January 23, 2009, 01:50:23 PMS
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I'm sorry... can you repeat those instructions again, a little slower this time? %%
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