OK, last night we had a insident with someone in our family......
I need to know if there is somewhere.......you can take a person "if they agree" that they can walk into and not get back out for thirty or more days to help with drug abuse.........She also has mental prob. but her local police dep. told me last night, she has to get substance abuse fixed first...
Found out last night my twenty seven year old sister attacked a twelve year old, busted out someones car windows, and was drunk and on crack............
Im still in shock.....
This particular family member lives in Virginia like me.......
If there is not a place where she will be stuck for awhile, I need a name of a state run facility (she has no insurance) in a near by state for that kind of help, so it will be harder for her to get friends to pick her up and bring them back home, and she might stay longer.....
Maby New Jersey or Pens.....some where, far enough, her "bad friends" wont be able to get to her....
Havnt slept in 48hrs......so I hope this makes since.......
Ive been on comp. trying to do searches, but not coming up with much info....
Thought I would take a chance posting it.....
where are you located at you can call 911 and they can take her not lock her up but can take her to where she want to go are you can look up in phone book to as long as they are willing to go in on there own the cops will not lock her up
I am in Connecticut which is probably too far away from you. But here there are places that will lock you up against your will until they see you fit to leave. I don't know if you have it there but have you tried Infoline? The number is 211
I have worked in a mental health facility. If there is anything I can do please send me a PM.
When you get time please pm me with name of the places you are talking about.......I discused it with the family, and we are willing to go as far as it takes..... I spent hours last night talking to cops, and state hospitals here, and they all sudjest sending her out of state where she might stay longer, or trying to force her in somewhere......... Im researching now on state laws, and if she lives in virginia, if it is possible to go to a different state and there hospital..........It is amazing to me, the laws they have that protect people ...... legaly she can walk around high and on hard core drugs and unless she stated she was going to kill herself or someone else, cops wont touch her......errr
I know about the laws....I am in law school. So sorry to hear about what is going on. I am going to call some places, and see what I can do. Give me an hour or so and I will PM you with some information.
YOU are a true angel, I just got off the phone with the virginia human rights, and they said there is nowhere here that she can go in that she cant just turn around and check herself out within a few days......I keep hitting brick walls. They said unless she got caught with posession, then the courts.........might.....might make her go......but chances arnt good. And I dont see her getting caught no time soon.....
i hope all goes well holly O0
Quote from: holly222 on January 10, 2006, 05:47:13 AM
YOU are a true angel, I just got off the phone with the virginia human rights, and they said there is nowhere here that she can go in that she cant just turn around and check herself out within a few days......I keep hitting brick walls. They said unless she got caught with posession, then the courts.........might.....might make her go......but chances arnt good. And I dont see her getting caught no time soon.....
I sent you a PM with some information that I found quickly. I am still looking around and calling. A friend of mine was in a similar situation when we were younger. There has to be someplace that she can go where she can't check herself out. Yes, if she got caught they might make her go but that is not a definite. They might also just give her outpatient treatment which does not seem like it would help.
I am on the phone now. I will PM you some more information when I get it.
holly im so sry this is happing hun but you need any1 to talk to im here pm me anytime dear i understand what your going throught i have been there alot but they usually do staighten up before it is to late im praing for you hun
Another question...You say she has mental problems? Is she suicidal? If so the emergency room should admit her, and they can treat both problems at the same time. I don't know why the police told you that she has to get drug treatment beforehand because that sounds like a bunch of bull.
holly like angel said is she abuse to her are other if so the police has the right to take her to hospital ihad to tell them that mine was they took him and and from that point he woke up
all the hospitals I know of will admit someone who is currently suicidal and/or experiencing a drug overdose. They should be able to tell you how to apply for insurance for people with low or no incomes to get treatment or at least refer you guys to free clinics or clinics that base their fees off sliding scales. Just have to ask. Try contacting some social service units of hospitals and ask. I don't know about there in Virginia, but were I'm from all the hospitals are like that. Also try contacting some rehab clinics, tell them she doesn't have insurance, ask how to apply for low income insurance or if they no of any rehab places that will take her. All the rehab places I know of will help you Thur the steps. Also, as for intervention, which it sounds like she needs, any decent rehab center will have intervention specialists that will work with you and your family to set her up to get her in and work with all her problems, not just one thing per say.
I PM'ed you again Holly with more information. I also called my local hospital, and they said that they should admit her no matter what state you are in and they won't let her out. They have a special floor for those patients with locked doors, etc. They will help you and your family apply for Medicaid. Your hospital is really your best bet. They will admit her and won't let her out as far as I know at least here they won't.
yes so true any decent hospital will help you guys apply for insurance for her hang in there it always gets worse before it gets better
Hi holly...sorry to hear you are going through this right now. Unfortunately, if she does not want help, forcing her into it (by her family) may make her rebel more and close doors to you in the future. However, you said the police were involved. If they pursue the charges against her, perhaps, if this is a first offense, they would court order rehab. That way, the courts are making her do the stint in rehab, not her family.
I deal with this daily at my job...i am not just talking out of my a**...The hardest thing for an addict to learn is when to get help. They look at it as a cost to benefit ratio. When the costs of using outweigh the benefits, that is usually the best time to seek help.
If she goes into detox, and then realizes she has court charges pending as a result, she may seek further help.
In the state of Pennsylvania, the local county Drug and Alcohol program run through the County MH/MR program will obtain detox and rehab funding...but, usually, only if the addict is seeking the help voluntarily.
I don't mean to be the downer of the group, but the best thing that you can do is remain supportive and honor her choices, even if you don't like them.
Good Luck to you and your family.
Your state seems to have some screwed up laws. Sorry I couldn't help.
holly im so sry hun but sometime you have to let them hit rock bottom before they realize what they are doing it hurt really bad but she will have to realize that her family love her to much but some ppl giving her money are any other means to get her stuff well just helping her is all we had to finally cut son off and let him hit it for sure but he was really close to hitting rock real close till he finally came to us and cried he needed help it cost us but we got are son back so what ever i can do to help you get throught this were all her for you ok but just have to do what it is but the whole family has to agree to it and believe me in one are another she will come around funds cut off and no means to money but just remember were her for you ok God Bless you and your family
wow yes that state has some messed up laws. All I can say is then if she has kids, protect them by contacting cps or you guys some how get legal custody of her kids if she has any and just her go
has any1 heard from holly i hope she is ok have not seen her on here im a little worried if any1 has pm her are talk to her on let me know tyia
Having dealt with family abuse it won't work until she decides she wants to get better and with the mental issues up have a very complicated problem. Do not enable her her. If you can't get help for her check out al-anon they can help you with the issues this causes you. I wish you well and will say a prayer. My brother did seek help but too late. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes the odds are just against you. I hope things work out. There is always hope and never give up
Quote from: nightperson on January 10, 2006, 12:49:06 PM
has any1 heard from holly i hope she is ok have not seen her on here im a little worried if any1 has pm her are talk to her on let me know tyia
I sent her several PM's but did not hear anything from her. I do hope she is okay..
Personally speaking, I am a recovering alcoholic. I hit rock bottom and was in a similiar situation that was described here. Anyways, I went into a substance abuse program here in Alabama called Pearson Hall. It is located in Birmingham, and it is a state run facility, but the care you receive is impeccable. After I was discharged, I had the tools I needed to stay sober....and the courage to do so. This facility deals with all types of substance abuse issues, and it is well worth the effort it takes to succeed. The first thing, however, is that she has to give herself to the program wholeheartedly and make the decision that she is sick and tired of being sick and tired. It is a very hard journey to take, but the end result will be all worth it. I have now been sober 4 years from making the decision to make a change. And when I say change, I mean CHANGE....everything about yourself. The people you associate with, the places you use to go to to have "fun", your entire way of thinking and the way you handle life in general. I wish your sister all the luck in the world. If she has her mind made up to get help...all she needs is encouragement and people to stand by her. She is gonna be hurting bad at first...but the pain will eventually leave her, if she allows it to. Just KEEP HER AWAY from her old stomping grounds. That is so many people's downfalls that are truly wanting and needing to recover. If, per chance, you would like the number to Pearson Hall, or any other facility closer to you, I will do everything in my power to help. I want to see her succeed!!! O0
Madonna...I want to congratulate you on your recovery. I have a family member that is an alcoholic but refuses to acknowledge it and get help. It takes a lot of courage to realize you have a problem and then get help.
That is so true, the person has to want the help to except it. If she denies it and will not take responsibility for it then she will not get help. I know from a reliable source that you can admit any person to a hospital in any State if they are suicidal/or thinking about ODing. I do hope she get the help she needs and a new start in life. I will keep her as well as all of you in my prayers.
Bree
TY so much. I'm not gonna sugar coat recovery by no means...it is VERY hard and you get to a point where you want to give up. That's how substance abuse affects the mind, but it can be overcome. What opened my eyes was how my addiction was affecting the people who actually cared about me...my family and some true friends. I, too, had "friends" that i use to go to bars with and smoke weed with. Those people were NOT my friends. They didn't care if i lived or died, as long as they got to have their fun, and i was a part of their own destruction. It's true that misery loves company. People with addictions want someone...anyone...to wallow in misery with them. They call you their buddies, their family, their friends. These people are sick and only want to bring you down right along with them. I tell you, with friends like that, who needs enemies, right? It took me years to open my eyes and realize that any substance, whether it be alcohol, crack, marijauna,... anything, masks a person and turns them into someone they're truly not. Take away the substance, allow time for old wounds to heal, and you will end up seeing a truly wonderful person. Substances make you do things, say things, that are not really that person at all. They would never do those things if their judgement wasn't so clouded. I feel that there is beauty that lies in every human, somewhere, it just takes scraping away alot of layers to find it sometimes. But trust me...it's there.
Holly: I just wanted to let you know that you and your family are in my prayers while your going through this trying time...I'm glad that you have other family members and the people on this fourm to lean on for support....this definatly isn't something you need to go through alone.
Quote from: pogohatesme on January 11, 2006, 03:35:19 PM
Holly: I just wanted to let you know that you and your family are in my prayers while your going through this trying time...I'm glad that you have other family members and the people on this fourm to lean on for support....this definatly isn't something you need to go through alone.
Same here, Holly. If you ever need help in any way whatsoever....let me know. You and your family are in my prayers, and I hope that your sister realizes the pain she is causing...not only on the people around her, but to herself as well. I wish her the best of luck. ;)
holly yvmw hun i do understand and i hope it goes good remember were here for you and your family and madonna wtg hun and keep up the good work i feel for any1 that goes throught this the thing i went throught was my son and went throught it 3 times over him but it was hard to tell him no more but he did wise up and doing fine been clean for 3 years and im so pround of him but holly my prayers are with you and your family
I too am very proud of your son, Night. I wish him continued success.
tyvm